Created attachment 3970 Where I have to go now for style settings When I want to change style of the desktop environment, I need to go to both Appearance and Window Manager. The former has color settings, the latter has decorations and windows behavior. I think this is confusing. It could be better to put Window Manager/Style tab into Appearance, name it as "Windows". Then Appearance will have all the style and color settings, while Window Manager will have only window behavior settings.
Created attachment 3971 Appearance should have Windows tab with windows decorations settings
Created attachment 3972 What should be left in Window Manager settings
From a usability perspective, I understand your point. However, it does interfere with the modular nature of xfce. You should be able to configure xfwm4 without having xfce4-settings. Hence the different dialog, it's provided by a different package. Olivier: Any thoughts on how we can take this into consideration without abandoning the current philosophy?
s/the current/this/ (I am not implying in any way that we should change it!)
Agreed this is confusing, I don't really care removing the theme settings from the wm preferences and moving it to the general appearance settings (and the tab would not show if not running xfwm4 as WM). Then merge the remainng two dialogs for xfwm4 (wm and wmtweaks), without the temes keeping these separate does nto make much sense. I don't think we have many users runng xfwm4 without the base components of xfce anyway. And for those who do, they can learn to use xfconf :)
I hope this gets fixed, as I think it's the biggest usability issue on XFCE right now.
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