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New windows appear in the lowest stacking layer, not on top


Description David Mohr 2009-01-15 14:30:25 CET
Any new window that gets opened appears on the bottom of the window stack, not on top. This happens with all new windows, whether started from the menu, from the panel, from within a program (i.e. Terminal), or as a new application window (i.e. open new window in firefox).
Comment 1 Olivier Fourdan editbugs 2009-01-15 14:35:27 CET
Can you elaborate a bit? I cannot reproduce the issue.

Giving some details on your settings might be a start.
Comment 2 David Mohr 2009-01-15 14:44:46 CET
/general/activate_action                 bring
/general/borderless_maximize             true
/general/box_move                        false
/general/box_resize                      false
/general/button_layout                   O|HMC
/general/button_offset                   0
/general/button_spacing                  0
/general/click_to_focus                  false
/general/cycle_draw_frame                true
/general/cycle_hidden                    true
/general/cycle_minimum                   true
/general/cycle_workspaces                false
/general/dbl_click_time                  400
/general/double_click_action             hide
/general/easy_click                      Hyper
/general/focus_delay                     157
/general/focus_hint                      true
/general/focus_new                       false
/general/frame_opacity                   81
/general/full_width_title                true
/general/inactive_opacity                100
/general/keytheme                        No alt move
/general/maximized_offset                0
/general/move_opacity                    100
/general/placement_mode                  center
/general/placement_ratio                 10
/general/popup_opacity                   100
/general/prevent_focus_stealing          true
/general/raise_delay                     250
/general/raise_on_click                  false
/general/raise_on_focus                  false
/general/raise_with_any_button           false
/general/repeat_urgent_blink             true
/general/resize_opacity                  100
/general/restore_on_move                 true
/general/scroll_workspaces               false
/general/shadow_delta_height             0
/general/shadow_delta_width              0
/general/shadow_delta_x                  0
/general/shadow_delta_y                  0
/general/shadow_opacity                  66
/general/show_app_icon                   false
/general/show_dock_shadow                true
/general/show_frame_shadow               false
/general/show_popup_shadow               false
/general/snap_resist                     false
/general/snap_to_border                  true
/general/snap_to_windows                 true
/general/snap_width                      10
/general/theme                           Daloa
/general/title_alignment                 center
/general/title_font                      Sans Bold 9
/general/title_horizontal_offset         0
/general/title_shadow_active             false
/general/title_shadow_inactive           false
/general/title_vertical_offset_active    0
/general/title_vertical_offset_inactive  0
/general/toggle_workspaces               false
/general/unredirect_overlays             false
/general/urgent_blink                    false
/general/use_compositing                 false
/general/workspace_count                 1

** (xfconf-query:5178): WARNING **: Unable to convert GValue to string
/general/workspace_names                 (null)
/general/wrap_cycle                      false
/general/wrap_layout                     false
/general/wrap_resistance                 10
/general/wrap_workspaces                 false
Comment 3 Olivier Fourdan editbugs 2009-01-15 14:47:57 CET
/general/focus_new false

See bug #4795: "Avoid placing unfocused windows on top of the current focused window when not focusing new windows (Bug #4795)."
Comment 4 Olivier Fourdan editbugs 2009-02-19 18:31:13 CET
*** Bug 4965 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Olivier Fourdan editbugs 2009-07-08 20:54:51 CEST
*** Bug 5479 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 6 robin.humble+xfce 2009-07-15 01:44:09 CEST
when you open new windows you want to see them. you are opening them _because_ you want to see them!! new windows don't need focus, but they do need to be raised.

please fix this bug.
Comment 7 Porcelain Mouse 2009-07-16 05:38:01 CEST
Please.  Wait a minute.  It is not appropriate to disregard this bug as Invalid.  That is simply untrue.  Xfce window manager has always allowed new windows to be created without focus and on top.  This, alone, proves this behavior is worthy of bug status--even if you don't like it for your own desktop.  Call it legacy behavior if you are spiteful, but it is still an *error* to alter it.

Furthermore, this is a perfectly normal, reasonable, legitimate, and, I suggest, superior behavior.  If all new windows get focus, then all of the unexpected windows that pop-up (from IM clients, IRC, things that run in the tray, optical media burns, etc.) will steel focus while one is working on something else.  It is a natural mode of operation for use with focus-follows-mouse which means, "when my mouse is in my xterm, don't switch to that other alert window."

Look, I cannot live with Xfce without this feature.  I don't know how you can either, but I'm not saying you are wrong to do so.  Why can't we have this behavior restored?  I don't see how the Xfce development team has any cause to deny this fix.

Bug #4808

Reported by:
David Mohr
Reported on: 2009-01-15
Last modified on: 2009-07-16
Duplicates (1):
  • 4965 new windows don't get risen automatically over focus window


Olivier Fourdan
CC List:
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