I don't know why, but it is clear that xfce, that I really like, do not have a quality assurance test at all.
Sorry about this rant, but this is the n+1 time that I update my system (ubuntu dekstop 18.10) and my xfce
configuration got completelly fuckedup. I don't know why, but this time maybe it depends on some issue
related to gtk 2 -> gtk 3 transition.
In any case, this is a big issue since, I would hope to start a real discussion about this, usability is important but
developers NEVER think about it.
I'm a men that is used to work as in 1985, I really like simple desktop, FULL of icons. I really like to work with
the old desktop that just show me the icons and folder, I can move them as I wish, I can organize them as I wish.
BUT MORE IMPORTANT: I can read their name without any kind of strange ellipsize "..."
Sorry about the rant. I know how to fix this issue changing gtk style or at least, since there is no WAY to do this
in the desktop settings, since the program (xfdesktop) cannot figure out the space of the name by itself, but depends
on the THEME (WHY=??????), and since I start to be bored to cut and past after 20 minutes of google searches
(see this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/33622/how-to-show-full-names-on-desktop-in-xfce)
And finally, since, after fixing everything and updating to ubuntu 18,10, everything is again completelly fucked up.
I have just one question: why? why the developers think that any users, that install your software can use it
if it can change the desktop background (silly, stupid, completelly useless future that get your attention for 10 microseconds)
but cannot read the file names or folder names.
Sorry again about the rant. But I'm really really upset. Do I have maybe to COMPILE from scratch the entire distribution to have a working
xfce desktop environment? it is a bug of the distribution (ubuntu)? or it is a bug of the application.. xfdesktop I don't know.
But I just know, that I'm bored of fixing stuff for every system update. and discover what fucking .css file I have to change, and how and why.
Basic desktop functions:
* Show icons. Move Icons around. open documents
* show folder, move folder arounds. open folders.
* show NAMES.
* then desktop background and other stuff.
Created attachment 8069
Image of desktop, most of the names are completelly fucked up.
Sorry, I don't read rants, can you please briefly explain what is the actual behavior and the expected one?
Also this bug is reported to xfdesktop 4.13.2, a development version, so expect rough edges.
And finally, if updating is so traumatic to you, then consider a rolling release distribution.
I'm sorry for the rants, but it is clear that the world of desktop environments in linux is terrible.
I'm an user of unix/linux from the '90, I used ALL possible environment and I'm still surprised/stresses and
continuosly frustrated by the lack of attention to simple, really simple but fundamental problems, while developers continue to develop on marginal code just to implement the next bug in the theming system or
in others stupid stuff, and never care about quality.
Anyway, another rant. I'm using Ubuntu 18.10, I just update the system with apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. STOP. I switched to kde, that I dislike for other reason. I reported the bug for a 4.13.2 but this was just for signal it for the next version. The correct enviroment is 4.12. Please just install on a vm the last ubuntu desktop, install xfce and run it. Update the xfce packages, and you note the problems. It is clearly a wrong interaction between
gtk styles css and your xfce desktop code.
The problem is always there FOR ALL VERSION. There is no way to fix it, without altering the .css style (ABSURD), and you had to put a FAQ on your site to just explain it, but that works for gtk 2.0 not for other versions. So, you see, it is a design issue. You decided that settings this in an interface is too complicated for
a user, but it is not complicated to edit a .css file that change from an installation of gtk to the other.
And this is just to read file names and folder names on the desktop. In 2018.
It is not a problem of which release I install, ALL OF THEM ARE BUGGED.
This is the file that I'm referring:
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